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April 05, 2007

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Jim Collins

Would you support a law that prohibited lawsuits from use of playground equipment and facilities? I'm not talking about injuries from equipment and facilities that were in disrepair.

An example of what I'm referring to would be if little Billy broke his leg because he decided to jump off of the swing at the top of it's arc. If the swing's chain broke causing a broken leg that is entirely different and wouldn't be covered by the law.

Reason I'm asking is that the town I live in banned skateboarding on the sidewalks. They built a free skateboard area at the local park. A week after it opened, a kid broke his leg trying to do a handstand on his board. The parents promptly sued the city. The park has been locked up since.

JMG

No, but I would support saying that this is simply another example of the WA Monument effect mentioned earlier--anyone filing what is (as described) a baseless suit that will soon be dismissed summarily causes the loss of the entire park.

Municipalities get sued for roads/buses/elevators/signage/zoning/etc. etc. ALL THE TIME. If they closed the skate park because someone sued them, then they should close the streets and sidewalks for the same reason. The bottom line is that a kid trying to do a handstand is not a good plaintiff for an action against the city. Defending these suits is what city attorneys are for.

Elliot

"Municipalities get sued for roads/buses/elevators/signage/zoning/etc. etc. ALL THE TIME. If they closed the skate park because someone sued them, then they should close the streets and sidewalks for the same reason. The bottom line is that a kid trying to do a handstand is not a good plaintiff for an action against the city. Defending these suits is what city attorneys are for."

City Attorneys cost money. Defending even a baseless case can cost a lot. If the City gets sued for the condition of the streets and sidewalks, they pretty much have to eat those costs, because they can't eliminate streets and sidewalks. But they *can* eliminate playgrounds, so they will do so if the litigation costs are too high.

Webdude

Mr. Collins can correct me if I'm wrong, and identify his city, but googling his email address I found a jimc5499 who lives in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. That city has no apparent shortage of year-round skateparks. http://www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us/parks/html/more_activities.html

Jim Collins

Actually I live in a smaller town about 30 miles from Pittsburgh. I work in Pittsburgh. What we had was an old tennis court that was reconstructed into an unsupervised skateboard area. The area was fenced in, but the gates were open all of the time. After the kid broke his leg the gates were locked by the Parks Department. An article about the suit was in the local newspaper and stated that the City was keeping the area locked due to their insurance company refusing to cover the skateboard area.

Webdude

So the problem is not skateparks, per se, it's that the city had neglected to obtain insurance which would cover accidents in skateparks? That's a bit like your buying a second car, getting into an accident, trying to make a claim with your insurance, and being told, "You should have added that car to your policy if you wanted coverage, and by the way we don't issue policies to cars with salvage titles."

Jim Collins

No. It is like skydiving after packing your own parachute wrong and then having your family sue the parachute manufacturer.

If the skatepark had broken concrete surfaces, or if the half-pipe had collapsed while being used then I would agree with the City being sued. That didn't happen. This kid tried a stunt with some risk to it and injured himself as a result.

The lawsuit over what is basically a self-inflicted injury is what made the insurance company decide to no longe provide coverage for the skatepark.

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